Curse

AngeliqueSynner · Aug 24, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I've been rolling this build in Alliance Battles for a little while now. And I was wondering if it could work in PvE.

[build prof=W/D Name="Enduring Scythe" Strength=9+1+3 Scythe=12 Wind=9][Power Attack][Zealous Sweep][Victorious Sweep][Banishing Strike][Warrior's Endurance][Harrier's Haste][Lion's Comfort][Natural Healing][/build]

The Equipment I do in AB [And would replicate near exactly for PvE] is:
20/20 sundering scythe with a +30 fortitude
Liutennant's Insig/Superior Strength
Sentinal's/Superior Vigor
Sentinal's/Attunement
Sentinal's/Attunement
Sentinal's/Attunement
485 Health 26 Energy

I haven't found any totally shattering flaws in it. It's fairly good on energy being that each swing after the first would only cost 2 energy after the endurance comeback. Banishing strike would be totally squishy if I'm not going to be in a place with many minions/spirits. [It's really only there to make MM's not like me and/or start their armies again. >__o] So that could be replaced with a different attack.
So what do the professional warriors here think? Viable PvE build? Or find something else to do with Rayven?

Rhamia Darigaz · Aug 24, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

anything works in pve, etc.

also, needs moar health
imo forget wind prayers, lose the sup rune for a minor, spec 12 str 12 scythe, get rush or something for your speed boost and replace natural healing for an ias or w/e
then lose the runes of attunement for runes of vitae.

zelgadissan · Aug 24, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Why [Lion's Comfort] AND [Natural Healing]? As far as PvE goes, one of them is more than enough. I suggest Lion's instead of Natural. Also for PvE, IAS >> IMS - [Flail] is pretty much considered the best there is for a Warrior, I'd replace Harrier's Haste for it.

You already mentioned what might be the problem with Banishing Strike - I'd use [Protector's Strike] in its place in other areas or maybe [Wild Blow].

Also, please please PLEASE swap out the Superior Strength for Minor. You can even ditch Wind Prayers with my suggestions and net increase to Strength that way (12+1+1), with still 12 Scythe. If you do keep Wind Prayers, I might look into [Attacker's Insight] as well.

ALF71BE · Aug 24, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Needs much moar hp, moar IAS, less self-healing.

graverobber2 · Aug 24, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

drop [natural healing] and [harrier's haste] for [frenzy] or [flail] and [rush]
drop [banishing strike] for [aura of holy might]
And DON'T USE SUPERIOR RUNES ON A WARRIOR (except for vigor)
[build prof=W/D Name="Enduring Scythe" Strength=12+1+1 Scythe=12][Power Attack][Zealous Sweep][Victorious Sweep][Aura Of Holy Might][Warrior's Endurance][Frenzy][rush][Lion's Comfort][/build]

all radiant insignia's
1 minor strength
best vigor you can afford
3 vitae

AngeliqueSynner · Aug 24, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

[Tips Tricks hints and advice]

Lion's Comfort and Natural healing are both there as back-up for one another. I know in PvE I won't need both. :] But in PvP one just wasn't enough.
I tried flail in the build. Didn't much care for it. But then again, it might be more handy as mobs don't run as much as people do. xD
I was trying to stay away from enchantments, though I was fairly tempted by attacker's insight. I think if I do move it to PvE I will scrap the wind prayers though.
n__n Thanks for the advice. :]

AngeliqueSynner · Aug 24, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by graverobber2

drop [natural healing] and [harrier's haste] for [frenzy] or [flail] and [rush]
drop [banishing strike] for [aura of holy might]
And DON'T USE SUPERIOR RUNES ON A WARRIOR (except for vigor)
[build prof=W/D Name="Enduring Scythe" Strength=12+1+1 Scythe=12][Power Attack][Zealous Sweep][Victorious Sweep][Aura Of Holy Might][Warrior's Endurance][Frenzy][rush][Lion's Comfort][/build]

all radiant insignia's
1 minor strength
best vigor you can afford
3 vitae

I'd take flail over frenzy, I'm not suicidal. :/
But without the attunements I'd get the enchantment, Endurance and 1 attack. Then I'm out of energy dealing on base scythe damage for a few swings to recover. I'm not too fond of that. :[

Aneres · Aug 24, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by AngeliqueSynner

Then I'm out of energy dealing on base scythe damage for a few swings to recover. I'm not too fond of that. :[

[flourish] + [pious assault] on a scythe wielding strength war. [flail] [rush] (tho personally I prefer [sprint] over [rush])
So yeah I'd go [flourish] over [warrior's endurance]

AngeliqueSynner · Aug 24, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by Aneres

[flourish] + [pious assault] on a scythe wielding strength war. [flail] [rush] (tho personally I prefer [sprint] over [rush])
So yeah I'd go [flourish] over [warrior's endurance]

Where would I drop flourish? After the first attack waiting on the enrgy for the rest? That's kind of impractical, no? Even if I did drop endurance I'd have 2 skills recharging and florish wouldn't do much. x__x¿

Aneres · Aug 24, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

[zealous sweep] [victorious sweep] [pious assault] [flourish] [flail] [sprint] [resurrection signet] [wild blow]

Where would you use Flourish? uhhhhh after your first set of scythe attacks? Flourish allows you to do them all again...

zelgadissan · Aug 24, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

If you're going to run Flourish - tbh I'd use Warrior's Endurance - you probably wouldn't want [Victorious Sweep] because of its relatively quick recharge. If you happen to hit Flourish and it gets done recharging at the wrong time, you won't be getting enough energy back. I'd look at maybe [Rending Sweep] or [Aura Slicer] depending on your team's skill setup, or if you think you'd have enough energy to handle it, [Chilling Victory].

Tyla · Aug 24, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by graverobber2

all radiant insignia's

No, you won't need them with two powerful energy management skills.

JDRyder · Aug 25, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

viable is PvE

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 25, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Haven't tried your version but I'd say it'd benefit from some fast attack speed scythe attacks. Here's what I run on scythe Wars:

[Warrior's Endurance][Power Attack][Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Wild Blow][Flail]["Save Yourselves" (Luxon)][Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)] 14 Str/12 Scythe

A Leprechaun · Aug 25, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Yeah, there is not really any need for the extra energy from the attunement runes. You have amazing energy management already and extra energy will not help you.
Zealous sweep is not needed either, you will be hitting more than one for most of the time in PvE so with warrior's endurance you will be gaining back more than the cost of the attack skill. If you still feel you need more energy management I would suggest [Counterattack], most enemies attack in PvE, you gain more energy, it does more damage and it recharges faster.
Power Attack is too good to pass up with a scythe. If you feel you need a self-heal I would really suggest [Victorious sweep] 70 health, nice damage and a reasonable recharge.

But then, as most others have said, anything works in PvE.
~A Leprechaun~

Age · Aug 26, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12

I wouldn't run it as I prefer my Warrior weapons but if anything else maybe a spear as a W/P as it has adrenal skills.

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 26, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

I don't really like using my war in PvE, but whenever I do I'm using this:

[build=OQoiExpMZXYU0cxcxXJDuDGDCA]

Can't spam "SY" as well as a Dslasher, but it has waaayy higher dps if you're hitting multiple targets. I replace Whirlwind with Asuran Scan if I want more single-target damage.

Arkantos · Aug 26, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Age

I wouldn't run it as I prefer my Warrior weapons but if anything else maybe a spear as a W/P as it has adrenal skills.

What does paragon skills using adrenaline have anything to do with this? W/P does mediocre damage, W/D does good, AoE damage, with the ability to mindlessly spam attacks.

Age · Aug 26, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

What does paragon skills using adrenaline have anything to do with this? W/P does mediocre damage, W/D does good, AoE damage, with the ability to mindlessly spam attacks.

I prefer to have 25 to 30 anergy and 4 pips of regen as compared to 20 to 28 with only 2 pip of regen.I would use it on Ranger not a Warrior.Dervs can't spam thier attacks and I do have one unless you want to use Avatar of Lyssa to gain more energy something a Warrior can't use.

Savio · Aug 26, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Age, W/D's use Warrior's Endurance. They shouldn't run out of energy.